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Post by Beek on Apr 28, 2008 12:17:07 GMT -5
The recommendation is quite simple. Get rid of the mechanical means of running the program. How? By investing approx. $33 (US), you can purchase a memory stick of 8GB, copy the folder to it, and run the program from there. Instantly, you have eliminated a step that most people have to encounter: The physical movement(s) of operating the harddrive. You now have, in essence, an EEPROM (Electrically (or Electronically) Erasable Programmable Read-Only Memory). Much like an older Atari system where you plugged a cartridge into the game console, your USB memory stick acts the same way. The only thing you have to deal with now is the computer's bus speed (essentially, how fast info moves throughout the computer itself). By eliminating the physical mechanical movements, you have just sped up the accessing of the program. This BTW, as shown above, isn't new. It's just rethinking the old in what is available to us today. This will work but remember max transfer rate of USB 2.0 is 60MB/s and a typical memory stick is about half that. If you have a halfway decent computer your harddrive will have a faster transfer rate. My personal opinion is if you have a p4 or Athlonxp or faster, you are good to go. Granted if you have a fast cpu and a POS video card you might have to run at 640x480 to get a smooth 60fps. I've played this game on a lot of different setups and don't notice much difference in game play.
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Post by gunsofnavarone on Apr 28, 2008 12:34:03 GMT -5
I beg to differ:
"How fast is USB 2.0?
USB 2.0 has a raw data rate at 480Mbps, and it is rated 40 times faster than its predecessor interface, USB 1.1, which tops at 12Mbps. Originally, USB 2.0 was intended to go only as fast as 240Mbps, but in October 1999, USB 2.0 Promoter Group pumped up the speed to 480Mbps."
(http://www.everythingusb.com/usb2/faq.htm)
"Today's IDE/ATA hard disks are designed to operate with an interface speed of 100 MB/s, but their sustained transfer rates are barely pushing 40 MB/s. This means the 100 MB/s speed only applies for the occasional transfer that does not require actual access to the hard disk platters."
(http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/perf/perf/spec/transInterface-c.html)
It seems to me that given the specs as noted above, the USB 2.0 is approx. 4x faster than a harddrive. Unless I'm misenterpreting what I'm reading somehow.
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Post by gunsofnavarone on Apr 28, 2008 12:46:25 GMT -5
Here is another article which states in part: "Speeding Up
With the very fast paced lifestyle these days, most businesses are time-bound and cannot afford a slowing down in their transactions. This makes speed of HDDs a crucial point in technological purchases. The typical access time for a Flash based SSD is about 35 - 100 micro-seconds, whereas that of a rotating disk is around 5,000 - 10,000 micro-seconds. That makes a Flash-based SSD approximately 100 times faster than a rotating disk.
This however raises another point - what's the benefit of a high-speed SSD when the entire system cannot support it? The evolution of CPUs in terms of performance has far surpassed the development of the data storage system. The HDD is actually limiting the potential of a computer system when they are not able to keep up with the performance of the other components, particularly the CPU. If an HDD is replaced by a high-speed SSD, the performance would significantly improve. The resulting system would be a high-powered set-up that can go beyond the demands of high-speed business or military environments. "
(http://www.storagesearch.com/bitmicro-art3.html)
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Post by Beek on Apr 28, 2008 15:09:14 GMT -5
I beg to differ: "How fast is USB 2.0? USB 2.0 has a raw data rate at 480Mbps, and it is rated 40 times faster than its predecessor interface, USB 1.1, which tops at 12Mbps. Originally, USB 2.0 was intended to go only as fast as 240Mbps, but in October 1999, USB 2.0 Promoter Group pumped up the speed to 480Mbps." (http://www.everythingusb.com/usb2/faq.htm) "Today's IDE/ATA hard disks are designed to operate with an interface speed of 100 MB/s, but their sustained transfer rates are barely pushing 40 MB/s. This means the 100 MB/s speed only applies for the occasional transfer that does not require actual access to the hard disk platters." (http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/perf/perf/spec/transInterface-c.html) It seems to me that given the specs as noted above, the USB 2.0 is approx. 4x faster than a harddrive. Unless I'm misenterpreting what I'm reading somehow. Guns If you read the article you posted carefully looking at the difference MB/s and Mb/s. Yes USB 2.0 is rated at 480Mbits/sec. But there are 8bits per byte so if you divide you get a max of 60Mbytes per sec. Most of these run through the pci bus which in itself is only rated at 133 Mbytes/sec. This link show some average reading from typical harddrives. Mine are all in the 60Mbytes/sec range www.tomshardware.com/charts/3-5-hard-drive-charts/average-read-transfer-performance,658.html?p=1822%2C1823%2C1797%2C1774%2C1776%2C1805%2C1831%2C1832%2C1808%2C1779%2C1792%2C1847%2C1826%2C1765%2C1819%2C1817%2C1789%2C1786%2C1837%2C1842%2C1843 Now on the other hand if you would like to replace the usb stick with a solid state harddrive it is a completely different matter but those drives will set you back some serious money. www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227295$1050 for a 64GB drive The whole Mbit vs Mbyte is confusing but I just went through it with my routers in the old 10/100 vs 1000Mbit...... Beek
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Post by Beek on Apr 28, 2008 15:16:23 GMT -5
Out of curiosity more then anything I have an old PIII 1.2Ghz box sitting around. It has both integrated video and an AGP slot. I'll load dod on it and see how it plays with the integrated and then pop a ATI 850XT PE in and see how it plays. I bet a PIII is plenty pc as long as you have a decent video card.
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Post by Colonel McShizzle on Apr 28, 2008 15:28:21 GMT -5
It's gettin all nerdy up in nis mafa. Fo sheezy.
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Post by profbuldge on Apr 28, 2008 16:21:29 GMT -5
Damn! How bad is it that I actually had some of those links previously bookmarked?
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Post by got chocolate milk? on Apr 28, 2008 17:42:28 GMT -5
Technically your P3 box should be able to run at a descend speed and quality even with the on board components. I was playing off a P3 500MHz with a on board 64MB card, settings all at low, dod was working fine, but me...well no comments. Jump, with your skills and speed your going to be more at my level of play...thinking about it, go ahead and use your p3 for the next scrim I just upgraded my video card on my Athlon64 from my on board card, and apart from running my video settings at max, I really do not see a difference in play, yet again my skills are not at a point where these changes are needed...
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Post by gunsofnavarone on Apr 28, 2008 17:58:32 GMT -5
Beek,
My apologies. I often miss that (Large B vs little b). Thanx for pointing it out.
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Post by lt on Apr 28, 2008 17:58:57 GMT -5
Tell you what, smart guys...since I am "such a purist like I say", I am going to start owning you all with this: and then you can cry when none of your techno-babble can save you
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Post by got chocolate milk? on Apr 28, 2008 18:17:45 GMT -5
Hope you stick to are "agreement" and still warn me before shooting!!!!!
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Post by Beek on Apr 28, 2008 18:39:49 GMT -5
Tell you what, smart guys...since I am "such a purist like I say", I am going to start owning you all with this: and then you can cry when none of your techno-babble can save you That would be pretty cool. To help you out I'll give you the pinout for the atari 2600 controller. 9 PIN D-SUB FEMALE at the joystick cable. Pin Color Dir Description 1 WHT -- Up 2 BLU -- Down 3 GRN -- Left 4 BRN -- Right 5 n/c - Not connected 6 ORG - Button 7 n/c - Not connected 8 BLK --- Ground(-) 9 n/c - Not connected You will also need this device to input into your pc. groovygamegear.com/webstore/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=76_80&products_id=199Beek
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Post by scar on Apr 28, 2008 19:17:00 GMT -5
i got all of my hacks from www. mcshizzles hacks .com you know things like bullet proof underwear and a super steel inforced helmet lol. u da man shizz
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Post by JumpMasterG on Apr 28, 2008 20:33:41 GMT -5
You can talk tech till your blue in the face and a good rig will help a bit. But...if you can't aim, if you rely continually on a camping or spray n pray style of play...you'll never improve! I'm still seeing guys run off willy-nilly not paying attention to their squad, the map characteristics or the last place an enemy was located. Call out the snipers, call out the mg's, learn to be patient and screw your stats until you're good enough to score!!! Above all...the server sounds like a loud ass bar!!!! STFU, speak when necessary, and quit playing giggle giggle grab ass with that young girl on the server! Wanna improve? Listen to the guys who have played a while! Watch them play, move and fire. There is no magic bullet, there is no gimmick (legal) that will put you into the top tier of players! There's a lot of info posted here now. Read it, heed it or shut up about how good so and so is and you can't figure it out!!! This ain't aimed at anyone in particular so if it hits home and you get pissed off....tough!
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Post by Beek on Apr 29, 2008 6:46:00 GMT -5
AMX_GAG anyone.................hint its on the TLS server.
I think I suggested this before but I'll say it again. Follow Hodgie or Sinz up the map a few times. Hodgie hears everything and Sinz can outcamp anyone.
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